Ali then said:
"However this group insisted on their error. Instead of approaching these issues with an open mind, their fanatacism and partisanship led them to a state of denial and wickedness in argumentation. The Kuwaiti declaration became a Sururi forgery. The documented statements of the 'ulima became abrogated. The scholars of major repute like Ibn Jibrin and Bakr Abu Zaid were dismissed and in private they were called heretics. In the end neither Ibn Baz, nor Ibn Utahmin, nor al-Albani could escape their wrath and demented views."
[Abu Khadijah says in response]
"My Response: Stop trying to agitate the people into a frenzy and an atmosphere of paranoiya - Let us look at the facts and not at emotions."
Why are you so agitated? Is it because you are the one who spread the lie of a Suroori forgery? Why not come clean? Why dance around the issue?
"You say 'in private they were called heretics'... fear Allaah, anyone can make a claim, but as the Salaf used to say that "Isnaad is the Deen" and "The Isnaad is the weapon of the believer" and as Muhammed Ibn Sireen said: "Name us your men" -"
You know what you said to Ali in private in Leicester and Allah knows and is witness. You then said:
"So who said from the salafi shaykhs that these two are heretics? As for Ibn Baaz, Ibn Uthaymeen and Al-Albaanee, then noone loves them more than we Salafis and their noble students.... Stop the emotional claims and stop trying to confuse sincere brothers and sisters."
What about your Shaykh al-Askar who attacked al-Albani in the Saudi papers and accused of deviation from Salafiyah? Even Ali al-Halabi could not come out and call al-Askar what he is in his defense of al-Albani. |